Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/26/1995 09:35 AM Senate FIN

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  SENATE BILL NO. 152                                                          
                                                                               
       An  Act relating  to geographic  differentials for  the                 
       salaries of certain state employees who are not members                 
       of a collective  bargaining unit; relating to  periodic                 
       salary  surveys   and  preparation  of  an  annual  pay                 
       schedule regarding certain state employees; relating to                 
       certain state  aid  calculations  based  on  geographic                 
       differentials   for   state   employee  salaries;   and                 
       providing for an effective date.                                        
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford directed that SB  152 be brought on  for                 
  discussion.     ALISON  ELGEE,  Deputy  Director,  Dept.  of                 
  Administration, came before committee to  speak to the bill.                 
  She explained that  the legislation was introduced  to amend                 
  the  statutory  geographic  differential  that  covers  non-                 
  covered   employees  of   the  executive   branch  and   the                 
  legislature.  The existing differential  has been in statute                 
  since 1972.   The  majority of  the state's union  contracts                 
  contain differentials amended on the  basis of a 1985 study.                 
  However,  differentials for  non-covered employees  were not                 
  brought current.                                                             
                                                                               
  The proposed  bill also  establishes $30.0  as the  limit of                 
  total  compensation to  which the differential  would apply.                 
  That  threshold  would  be  annualized throughout  the  year                 
  rather than applied to the first few months of the year  and                 
  then shut off.                                                               
                                                                               
  The legislation also amends current requirements for  annual                 
  salary and cost of living surveys  to require the conduct of                 
  a  cost of  living  survey  every  five  years,  subject  to                 
  appropriation.  These  surveys are extraordinarily expensive                 
  if conducted  in the  same manner as  the 1985 study.   That                 
  survey cost $375.0.  No funding has been provided to conduct                 
  a comparable survey since that time.                                         
                                                                               
  The proposal for transition of  employees from the old index                 
  to  the  new  involves  a  twelve-month freeze  for  current                 
  salaries.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Portions  of  the proposed  bill  relate to  other statutory                 
  sections  such as  revenue sharing  which has  traditionally                 
  been  tied  to  the  old   geographic  differential.    Bill                 
  provisions maintain  the historical tie for  those programs.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Amendments contained within the  legislation would thus  not                 
  impact anything but the employee salary base.                                
                                                                               
  Ms.  Elgee  directed  attention  to  a  spread  sheet  (copy                 
  attached to  these minutes)  and explained  that the  column                 
  entitled "1972 index" shows the current differential applied                 
  to  non-covered  employees.   The  next column  displays the                 
  union differential in place since 1986.  The column entitled                 
  "Runzheimer" evidences the  result of  a study conducted  by                 
  the Dept. of  Administration last fall.   There was  limited                 
  funding for  the review and  results "look a  little weird."                 
  The  department  has  thus  not  relied  on   the  study  in                 
  establishing  the proposal in pending legislation, except to                 
  the degree that it  demonstrates that the cost of  living in                 
  Alaska has come down significantly.                                          
                                                                               
  The proposal in SB 150 represents a broad-band approach that                 
  looks at geographic similarities, the type of transportation                 
  available  to  areas, and,  in a  few  cases, other  cost of                 
  living information.   As  an example,  Ms. Elgee  noted that                 
  because  of its size,  Fairbanks is  showing up  on national                 
  studies.    Those  studies  indicate  a  cost  of  living in                 
  Fairbanks similar to that in Anchorage.                                      
                                                                               
  Ms. Elgee acknowledged questions concerning applicability of                 
  the legislation to the university and the court system.  The                 
  university  has  already  eliminated  the  differential  for                 
  Fairbanks, effective in January.  At the time that was done,                 
  the  university   indicated   interest   in   revising   the                 
  differential for other parts of  the state but was  awaiting                 
  the administration's proposal  for those  areas.  The  court                 
  system    has    traditionally   followed    the   statutory                 
  differential.                                                                
                                                                               
  Referencing  the  spread  sheet,  Senator Zharoff  noted  an                 
  increase  from  0.791  to  1.0  for employees  stationed  in                 
  Seattle.  Ms. Elgee explained that national surveys indicate                 
  that  the  cost  of  living  in  Seattle  is  comparable  to                 
  Anchorage.  Senator  Phillips suggested  that lack of  sales                 
  tax in Anchorage and a sizable  tax in Washington causes the                 
  cost of living to appear similar.   Senator Sharp voiced his                 
  understanding that the legislation proposes  to increase the                 
  pay for Seattle-based employees  by 21% on the  first $30.0.                 
  Ms. Elgee responded that it would  bring them up to the same                 
  base  as Anchorage employees.   The state  presently has six                 
  employees in  Seattle.   Senator Donley  asked how the  bill                 
  might be  modified so  that Seattle  employees maintain  the                 
  status  quo.  Ms.  Elgee recommended  that if  the committee                 
  modifies pay  for Seattle  employees,  it "go  to the  union                 
  differential  which is  currently 0.870%  of the base.   The                 
  1972 index is 0.791%.                                                        
                                                                               
  Senator  Donley referenced  page  3, line  1,  and MOVED  to                 
  maintain  Seattle  employees  at their  present  level.   In                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  response to an  inquiry from Co-chairman Halford,  Ms. Elgee                 
  explained that in order to retain  current levels of pay for                 
  employees in  Seattle,  the bill  would  have to  reflect  a                 
  percentage below the basic salary  schedule.  Senator Donley                 
  then MOVED to change the zero for Washington State to -10 at                 
  page 3, line 1.  No objection having been raised, the motion                 
  CARRIED and the AMENDMENT was  ADOPTED.  Co-chairman Halford                 
  also noted  need to conform  percentage language at  page 2,                 
  line  26, to conform to the minus number.  He suggested that                 
  language read "Percentage Above or Below" rather than merely                 
  "Percentage  Above." No  objection  having been  raised, the                 
  CONFORMING AMENDMENT was ADOPTED.                                            
                                                                               
  Senator Zharoff  asked how  the proposed  bill would  impact                 
  Alaska's foreign offices.   Ms. Elgee advised  that the bill                 
  makes no change  for Alaska employees in  foreign countries.                 
  She  noted  that   the  director   of  personnel  would   be                 
  establishing salaries for Alaska employees outside the State                 
  of  Washington.    Problems have  arisen  concerning  Alaska                 
  employees in  Washington, D.C.,  which  has a  substantially                 
  different cost of living.   The administration thus suggests                 
  that these employees be treated similar to those in  foreign                 
  offices.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Discussion of the Runzheimer study followed between  Senator                 
  Phillips and Ms. Elgee.                                                      
                                                                               
  Senator Zharoff asked  what impact  the proposed bill  would                 
  have in terms  of getting people  to serve in rural  Alaska.                 
  Ms. Elgee  acknowledged  that the  department anticipates  a                 
  combination  of  effects.   She  attested to  past criticism                 
  regarding  "very high  differentials  in rural  Alaska" that                 
  make service  in rural areas  so attractive that  people are                 
  recruited from Anchorage  and Fairbanks  when jobs could  be                 
  made available to local residents.   At the same time, there                 
  sometimes   are  no   local  residents   to   fill  specific                 
  professional qualifications.   The administration will  have                 
  to  explore  other  options  (advanced  step  placement)  to                 
  encourage individuals to accept jobs  in rural Alaska.   The                 
  department does not feel  the geographic differential should                 
  be utilized to solve recruitment difficulties.                               
                                                                               
  As  an  example of  operation  of the  proposed legislation,                 
  Senator  Sharp  cited a  road  grader operator  in Fairbanks                 
  making $40.0 a year and asked if  the new index would reduce                 
  his  pay  by $6.0.    Ms.  Elgee explained  that  the salary                 
  schedule  is set  as a  base  salary schedule.   It  is then                 
  adjusted relative to recognition of  an area cost of  living                 
  differential.    All road  grader  operators  throughout the                 
  state start  with the  same basic  level of  pay.   She then                 
  acknowledged that the operator in Fairbanks would experience                 
  the above-noted reduction.   That impact, however,  would be                 
  implemented  one  year  from  the   effective  date  of  the                 
  legislation to give employees adequate notice of the change.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp  remarked  that the  reduction  would require                 
  considerable adjustment  for someone with  mortgage payments                 
  and other financial obligations.                                             
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford  voiced his understanding that  the bill                 
  addresses two issues:                                                        
                                                                               
       1.   The first  limits the geographic  pay differential                 
  to the first $30.0.                                                          
                                                                               
       2.   The second adjusts the schedule.                                   
                                                                               
  He  then  suggested   the  changes   would  entail  a   less                 
  significant adjustment for  individuals at lower pay  scales                 
  if the existing  schedule remains in  place for a couple  of                 
  years, the $30.0 threshold is held harmless for three years,                 
  and the  schedule change is  thereafter adopted.   Ms. Elgee                 
  advised  that Sec. 8  of the bill  contains the twelve-month                 
  transition  period.    Should the  committee  wish  a longer                 
  period to mitigate impact on  employees, that is the section                 
  that should be amended.   Co-chairman Halford suggested that                 
  changing July 1,  1996, to  July 1, 1997,  would extend  the                 
  period one year.                                                             
                                                                               
  In response to a question from  Co-chairman Frank, Ms. Elgee                 
  advised that the legislation  proposes that the differential                 
  apply  only  to that  portion  ($30.0)  of  the salary  that                 
  actually "goes to  cost of living  instead of to the  entire                 
  salary of the individual as in the past."                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chairman  Frank  questioned  the fact  that  the  current                 
  differential  for  Valdez  is  greater  than  for   interior                 
  villages and suggested that the two  do not deserve the same                 
  differential.  Ms. Elgee  concurred.  She added that  if the                 
  committee  is interested  in  splitting election  districts,                 
  that could be  done at page 2. line  30, by excepting Valdez                 
  and Cordova from  the listing of  districts 34, 35, and  36.                 
  Valdez and Cordova  could then be included  within districts                 
  at line  29.   Past geographic  differential schedules  have                 
  been  written  in that  fashion.   Co-chairman  Frank voiced                 
  reluctance to  do so without  review of supporting  data for                 
  both existing and  suggested differentials.   Senator  Sharp                 
  noted a similar problem  for Delta.  In response  to further                 
  concerns, Ms. Elgee  advised that rural state  employees are                 
  primarily located in regional centers.                                       
                                                                               
  In response  to a question  from Senator Zharoff,  Ms. Elgee                 
  explained that the legislation impacts non-covered employees                 
  in the  executive branch including the Dept.  of Law, Office                 
  of the Governor, Public Defender, Office of Public Advocacy,                 
  Pioneer Home Administrators, and AHFC rural housing offices.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator Phillips  asked if  there was  a difference  between                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  union coverage  and that  proposed for non-union  employees.                 
  Ms.  Elgee  responded  affirmatively.   She  added  that the                 
  recent ASEA agreement contains a  reopener clause that would                 
  be  triggered  by  passage  of  the  legislation.    Senator                 
  Phillips voiced a preference for  treating all employees the                 
  same.  In response to a  further question, Ms. Elgee advised                 
  that at the present time non-covered employees are higher in                 
  most districts than union employees.  That has been the case                 
  for  the  past  ten years.    The  proposal  would make  the                 
  majority of the districts  lower, but there are a  couple of                 
  exceptions.  Senator Donley commented  that most of the non-                 
  covered employees are top  level, management positions which                 
  benefit from larger salaries.                                                
                                                                               
  In response  to comments  regarding potential cost  savings,                 
  Ms. Elgee advised  of savings  of $1.2  million, when  fully                 
  implemented.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Senator  Donley MOVED  for passage  of CSSB  152  (Fin) with                 
  individual recommendations.                                                  
                                                                               
  GREGG  McDONALD,  representing   Public  Safety   Employee's                 
  Association (PSEA), came before committee.   He acknowledged                 
  that the bill  would not directly effect  PSEA employees but                 
  advised  of  several  concerns.    The   first  is  that  it                 
  establishes various classes of employees working in the same                 
  area.    Further,  it sets  the  cap  at $30.0  gross.   Mr.                 
  McDonald noted that while it would not presently impact PSEA                 
  employees, it would become a  factor in future negotiations.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Prior studies  upon which  the differential  was based  were                 
  scientific.    There is  no  such  evidence to  support  the                 
  current proposal.   Mr. McDonald expressed a  preference for                 
  maintaining  the   current   differential   based   on   its                 
  accountability.                                                              
                                                                               
  Co-chairman  Frank voiced  need to  further review  possible                 
  impacts of the proposed legislation.  The bill was thus held                 
  in committee for additional consideration.                                   
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting was adjourned at approximately 11:05 a.m.                        
                                                                               

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